If something in your relationship feels off and you can’t quite name it, the signs of a toxic relationship may be closer than you think. Sometimes we don’t have the words for what we’re experiencing. We just know we feel drained, confused, anxious, or like we’re constantly walking on eggshells around someone we love.
In this episode of Don’t Get a Therapist Yet, I sit down with Krystal Mazzola Wood, M.Ed., LMFT — a licensed marriage and family therapist, bestselling author, and one of the most respected voices in codependency and toxic relationship recovery. With over 15 years of clinical experience, and her own lived experience of codependency and toxic relationships, Krystal brings professional depth and real personal honesty to this conversation.
What Are the Real Signs of a Toxic Relationship?
We start by unpacking the clearest signs of a toxic relationship, and what separates one from healthy conflict. Krystal shares the research behind the five-to-one rule, the balance of positive to negative interactions that distinguishes couples who argue but stay connected from couples who spiral. From there we talk about contempt, the single most damaging behaviour a relationship can carry, and why it’s mistaken for “just how we communicate.”
Red Flags, Narcissists & the Language We’ve Borrowed From Social Media
We unpack the language people reach for when describing difficult relationships. Terms like red flag and narcissist have become part of everyday conversation, and Krystal helps us understand when they’re genuinely useful, and when they get in the way of repairing a connection worth saving.
Anxious Attachment, Avoidant Attachment & Where They Come From
From there, we go deep into attachment styles, exploring anxious attachment and avoidant attachment and how both trace back to the relationships we had as children. Krystal explains why someone with anxious attachment might struggle to even recognise their own boundaries, let alone hold them, and why someone with avoidant attachment might build walls through overwork, distraction, or emotional distance rather than risk closeness. If early experiences are something you’d like to understand further, my page on trauma explores how the past continues to shape us as adults.
Gaslighting Yourself and Finding Your Way Back
Krystal introduces a concept that struck me deeply: the idea of gaslighting yourself, and why the way out of it isn’t more thinking, but learning to reconnect with your own body. This ties closely into rebuilding self-trust and self-esteem, something I support people with directly, which you can read more about on my self-esteem page.
Why You Can’t Change Your Partner, and What You Can Do Instead
Perhaps most powerfully, Krystal talks about why trying to change your partner is almost always a losing battle, and what to focus on instead if you want your relationship, or your life, to genuinely shift. She shares a moving piece of her own story too: the moment she nearly ran from the warm, secure love she now has, and the conscious choice she made to lean in instead.
Moving Toward Secure Attachment and Healthy Relationships
This conversation is full of hope for anyone navigating toxic relationship recovery. Wherever you are, whether you’re trying to understand a relationship you’re in now, healing from one that’s already ended, or simply wanting to understand yourself a little better, Krystal offers a clear, compassionate path toward secure attachment. If anxiety or overwhelm are part of your own picture right now, you can find support on my anxiety page, and my full back catalogue of conversations like this one lives on the blog.
Find Krystal Mazzola Wood here:
🔗 Take the Toxic Relationship Safety Assessment: https://confidentlyauthentic.com/assessments/
📚 Explore Krystal’s Books (including the Toxic Relationship Recovery Workbook): https://confidentlyauthentic.com/books/
💬 Work with Krystal to Recover from Co-dependency and Anxious Attachment: https://confidentlyauthentic.com/heal-anxious-attachment/
📸 Instagram: @krystalmazzolawood